Tom deferred that much to the sensibilities of those East Eggers who might be on the train.

汤姆做了这一点让步，以免引起可能在这趟车上那些东卵人。

The Northman, directed by Robert Eggers.

《斯曼》，罗伯特·埃斯导演。

I'm a big fan of Eggers, and his newest Viking epic is an absolute must-see.

我是埃斯超级粉丝，他最新维京史诗绝对是必看作品。

How did Eggers know that that was gonna be a trend in 2018?

Eggers 怎么知道这将成为 2018 年趋势？

And Robert Eggers, the director, does fantastically with this modern imagining of this story.

导演罗伯特·艾斯（Robert Eggers）对这个故事进行了精彩现代诠释。

Yeah, Robert Eggers has done quite a bit.

是，罗伯特·艾斯确实做了不少事情。

I saw Robert Eggers' first film, The Witch, which is incredible.

我观看了罗伯特·艾斯处女作《女巫》，这部影令人叹为观止。

I know they just covered Nosferatu, the Robert Eggers one, on our Patreon.

我知道他们在我们Patreon上刚介绍了罗伯特·埃斯版《斯费拉图》。

I wanted it to be real man like in um, you know, I love Uh, you know, I mean, it's look it's a lot of filmmakers carrying the torch for that right like um, like robert eggers Yeah, who's your buddy too?

我想让它真实， 就像在… … 你知道，我喜欢呃… … 我意思是， 你看，有很多导演都在延续这种风，比如罗伯特·埃斯， 他也是你朋友吧？

And he was like, I might do this Nosferatu movie with Robert Eggers, but I don't know if it'll come together or whatever.

他说：“我可能会和罗伯特·艾斯一起拍那部《斯费拉图》影，但不知道能不能成行。”

So I wanted to talk to Eggers about the novel and how far we may actually be from such a dystopia.

所以我想和埃斯谈谈这部小说，以及我们离这样乌托邦还有多远。

I've been avoiding the stuff, you know, because I like, is his name Joel Eggers?

我一直都在避开这些东西，你知道，因为，他名字是乔尔·埃斯吗？

This is from The Lighthouse, a movie I really enjoyed doing, directed by the great Robert Eggers.

这是来自《灯塔》片段，这是我非常喜欢一部作品，由伟大罗伯特·艾斯执导。

I've seen two of Robert Eggers movies.

我看过罗伯特·艾斯两部影。

Go back to Robert Eggers for a second.

再回到罗伯特·艾斯话题上。

My guest today is Dave Eggers, the literary icon, publisher, and McSweeney's founder who writes some of the sharpest satire about our tech-obsessed world.

我今天嘉宾是戴夫·埃斯，他是文学偶像、出版商和麦克斯威尼创始人，他写了一些关于我们这个痴迷科技世界最犀利讽刺作品。

So I met with Eggers and then ten years ago I read the first draft of Nosferatu.

于是我与埃斯会面，十年前我读到了《斯费拉图》初稿。

Eggers calls this fictional conglomerate -- which, by the way, looks a lot like a Google-Amazon mash-up -- " The Every" .

埃斯称这个虚构企业集团——顺便说一句，它看起来很像谷歌和亚马逊混搭——“The Every”。