In “The World America Made” Robert Kagan, a prominent neoconservative, argues that the liberal order America created after the second world war may not endure if America loses the power or will to defend it.

著名守主义者罗伯特·卡根（Robert Kagan）《美国塑造世界》一书提出，二战后美国创造自由秩序有可能因美国失去捍卫力量或意愿无以。

And this was the think tank or one of the think tanks of the neoconservatives.

这就是守主义一个智囊团。

And of course, this is also a lesson for Kamala Harris, as she probably should have distanced herself a little bit from, you know, neoconservatives that everyone despises and atrocities that are, as you say, stomach churning.

当然，这对卡马拉·里斯也是一个教训，她或许应该与那些人人都厌恶守主义者以及你所说令人作呕暴行持一定距离。

So you're telling me it's a complete coincidence that he saw that the neoconservatives had this plan to overthrow Muammar Gaddafi, and then ten years later we happen to do it when we have the opportunity?

所以你在告诉我， 这完全是个巧合， 他看到守主义者有个推翻穆阿迈尔·卡扎菲计划，然后十年后我们恰好有机会就去做了？

And that philosophy then animated, I would say, a neoliberal and neoconservative consensus in Washington for 25 years.

这种理念随后激发了华盛顿长达25年自由主义和守主义共识。

Like, all the big neoconservatives were involved in PNAC, from Dick Cheney to Rumsfeld to Richard Perle, David Worms, all the big neocons.

像迪克·切尼、拉姆斯菲尔德、理查德·珀尔、大卫·沃姆斯这些大牌守主义者都参与了PNAC。

This was the neoconservative strategy, along with their counterpart, the Likuds in Israel, that they wanted to remake the region.

这是守主义者策略，以及他们在以色列对应方利库德集团，他们想要重塑该地区。

But again, I got to say for you to say that I can't Bring up the neoconservatives for a minute.

但再说一遍，我要说，你不能把我提到守主义分子哪怕一分钟。