And so if you ritualize sadism, if you ritualize punishment, if you ritualize a sense of surveillance, people are going to start punishing themselves, right?
It is left pretty much to individual intuition to determine what may rightly be called sadism and what may not—a situation hardly conducive to sound observation.
The Thinking Mind Podcast: Psychiatry & Psychotherapy
Look, you know, I don't know what you think from Mortimer, but I think there's a learned sadism in the British psyche, which is punishing people is somehow better than healing them.