Socrates goes further and defines rhetoric as a techne psychagogia, an art of leading or directing the soul, a kind of bewitchment that holds the listener's soul spellbound (261a).

苏格拉底更进一， 辞学定义为一种 techne psychagogia，一种引导或指导魂的术，一种使听者的魂着迷的魔法 (261a)。

So we can make, obviously when we make artifacts, when we are engaged in techne, when we are doing a lot of aspects of human work, we are doing, we're precisely making crooked things straight, right?

因此， 显然在我们制造人工制品时，当我们从事动， 或进行人类工作诸多方面时，我们正是在弯曲之物变得笔直，对吧？