So I think the vitalist idea is really that it's kind of a dualistic interpretation.

因此，我认为活力的观点实际上一种的解释。

So he gives us this point-by-point analysis of a variety of monistic theories, including Buddhism and then vitalists like Bergson, even our friend Driesch.

所以他给我们进行了各种一理的逐点分析，佛教， 还有像柏格森这样的活力主义者，甚至我们的好朋友德里施。

That like whatever that magic that the vitalists see.

那就生命力者所见的那种神秘力量。

So do you think the vitalists have a point that they're more eager and able to notice the magic of life?

那么，你否认为活力者有其道理，即他们更热切且能够察觉到生命的神奇之处？

I think that no tradition, vitalists included, is ever fully wrong about the nature of the things that they're describing.

我认为，没有任何传——活力者在内——在描述事物本质时完全错误的。

Life could be a material property and still have a lot of the features that the vitalists thought were mysterious.

生命可能一种物质属性，并且仍然具备许多活力者认为神秘的特征。

You open the book, Life As No One Knows It, The Physics of Life's Emergence, with a distinction between the materialists and the vitalists.

你翻开《生命如斯，无人知晓：生命起源的物理学》这本书，首先映入眼帘的唯物主义者与生机者之间的区别。

So we may still expand our understanding what is incorporated in the category of matter that will eventually incorporate such magical things that the vitalists have noticed, like life.

因此，我们或许仍能扩展对物质范畴内所含内容的理解，最终将那些活力者所察觉到的神奇现象，如生命，纳入其中。

So I don't think the vitalists were actually wrong.

因此，我认为活力者实际上并没有错。