I feel like if you demystified the traditional way of processing meat, they would all come flocking to this as well.

乔恩·孔：我觉得， 如果你传统肉类加工方式的神秘面纱，人们也会转向这种方式。

Not just with the varying sizes, some weren't proper holes, there hadn't been properly machined in the first place, and then he put a different basket on and saw, even though it was the same manufacturer, it was different again.

只是大，有的是合适的孔，始没有好好加工，然后他换了个萃取机，看了看，虽然是同个厂家，但又样了。