So a behaviorist story about fetishes, for instance, is it's straightforward classical conditioning.

因此，一个关于恋物癖的行为主义故事，例如，直截了当的经典条件反射。

For me, I guess it is somewhat of a fetish.

对我来说，我猜这多少有点像一种恋物癖。

And that is a very rare kind of pathology, objectophilia is called.

这一种非常罕见的性欲倒错症，称为恋物癖。

Bear in mind, though, that there is a distinction between kinks and fetishes.

请记住，性癖和恋物癖之间有别的。

Well, it's one of the most common fetishes.

嗯, 这最常见的恋物癖之一。

And Jim was the closeted foot fetishist pretending to belong.

而吉姆一个封闭的足部恋物癖者, 假装属于。

I think you're going to need to have an Asian fetish. Yeah.

我想你需要有一个洲恋物癖。

You got a thing for swans? Is this like a fetish?

你喜欢天鹅？ 这算恋物癖吗？

THAT TELLS US THAT HE PROBABLY FETISHISES.

也就说 他很可能有恋物癖。

Jane was Internet porn, where every fetish can be fulfilled.

络色情, 在那里, 每一种恋物癖都可以得到满足。

More speculatively, classical conditioning has been argued to be implicated in the formation of sexual desire, including fetishes.

更具推测性的，经典条件反射被认为与性欲的形成有关，包括恋物癖。

They take these crosses and they try to convert them into these sort of fetishistic, trendy consumer items.

他们把这些十字架变成了一种 fetishistic（恋物癖式的）、潮流的消费品。

And I'm quite glad to see a menu that doesn't make a fetish of stracciatella and pollo sorpreso.

而且我很高兴这份菜单上没有恋物癖式的巧香纯奶和意大利惊炸鸡。

While a kink relates to a specific sexual practice, fetishism involves sexual excitement tied to a particular object or theme.

虽然性癖指的特定的性行为，但恋物癖指对特定物体或主题产生的性兴奋。

You don't just focus on being a bunch of fetish, a bunch of fetishes for different high school girls and whatnot.

你不仅仅专注于成为一堆对不同高中女生的恋物癖。

But that's not just for gay men, nor is it a fetish thing, nor is it a reflection on your manhood.

但这不仅适用于同性恋男性，也不一种恋物癖，更不对你男子气概的反映。

It's tricky because, as you say, from the perspective of a zoophile, we have these very, on the surface, very strong parallels.

这很棘手，因为正如你所说，从恋物癖者的角度来看，表面上我们有着非常强烈的相似之处。

In the book you wrote, " Scholarly forests have been clear-cut in the service of explaining his so-called fetishes." What does that mean?

宽：在你写的书中，“为了解释他所谓的恋物癖，已经砍伐了学术森林”。这意味着什么？

And that's interesting because there's also a thing called kink shaming, which is when someone tells you they're kink that you go, ooh, yuck.

这很有趣，因为还存在一种现象叫作“恋物羞辱”，即当有人告诉你他们的恋物癖好时，你会不自觉地发出“哦， 真恶心” 的反应。

Here's the bit that was really disturbing when a student of mine came along and said, have we tried studying the people who fetishize them?

当我的一个学生突然对我说：“我们有没有尝试过研究那些对它们有恋物癖的人？”这一段真的让我感到非常不安。