Tom deferred that much to the sensibilities of those East Eggers who might be on the train.

汤姆做了这一点让步，以免引起可能在这趟车上那些东卵人反感。

I'm a big fan of Eggers, and his newest Viking epic is an absolute must-see.

我是超级粉丝，他最新维京史诗绝是必看作品。

The Northman, directed by Robert Eggers.

《诺曼》，罗伯特·导演。

How did Eggers know that that was gonna be a trend in 2018?

Eggers 怎么知道这将成为 2018 年趋势？

And Robert Eggers, the director, does fantastically with this modern imagining of this story.

导演罗伯特·艾（Robert Eggers）这个故事进行了精彩现代诠释。

Yeah, Robert Eggers has done quite a bit.

是，罗伯特·艾确实做了不少事情。

I've seen two of Robert Eggers movies.

我看过罗伯特·艾部电影。

Go back to Robert Eggers for a second.

再回到罗伯特·艾话题上。

I know they just covered Nosferatu, the Robert Eggers one, on our Patreon.

我知道他们在我们Patreon上刚介绍了罗伯特·版《诺费拉图》。

I saw Robert Eggers' first film, The Witch, which is incredible.

我观看了罗伯特·艾处女作《女巫》，这部电影令人叹为观止。

Dr. Eggers didn't think it was designed to keep things out.

博士认为，它并非设计来阻挡外界之物。

I've been avoiding the stuff, you know, because I like, is his name Joel Eggers?

我一直都在避开这些东西，你知道，因为，他名字是乔尔·吗？

This is from The Lighthouse, a movie I really enjoyed doing, directed by the great Robert Eggers.

这是来自《灯塔》片段，这是我非常喜欢一部作品，由伟大罗伯特·艾执导。

So I met with Eggers and then ten years ago I read the first draft of Nosferatu.

于是我与会面，十年前我读到了《诺费拉图》初稿。

Eggers said to the interviewer, he was convinced that the thing out there wasn't a fault at all.

艾采访者说，他确信那东西根本不是故障。

So I wanted to talk to Eggers about the novel and how far we may actually be from such a dystopia.

所以我想和谈谈这部小说，以及我们离这样反乌托邦还有多远。

Eggers calls this fictional conglomerate -- which, by the way, looks a lot like a Google-Amazon mash-up -- " The Every" .

称这个虚构企业集团——顺便说一句，它看起来很像谷歌和亚马逊混搭——“The Every”。

And he was like, I might do this Nosferatu movie with Robert Eggers, but I don't know if it'll come together or whatever.

他说：“我可能会和罗伯特·艾一起拍那部《诺费拉图》电影，但不知道能不能成行。”

My guest today is Dave Eggers, the literary icon, publisher, and McSweeney's founder who writes some of the sharpest satire about our tech-obsessed world.

我今天嘉宾是戴夫·，他是文学偶像、出版商和麦克威尼创始人，他写了一些关于我们这个痴迷科技世界最犀利讽刺作品。