This is like so great and she feels seen and individuated.

这真是太好了，她感到了，也很有个性。

I mean, at this point, the way the economy is, it's really hard to individuate.

我意思是，现在经济形势这样，真的很难独立出来。

Yeah, and so how that gets replayed in everyday life is we're constantly in the process of individuating ourselves, becoming more of who we are, and learning how to let go into relationship at the same time.

是的，这种过程在日常生活中不断上演：我们终处于自我分化的过程中，越来越真实的自己，同时也在学习如何在关系中放下自我、融入彼此。

So you can be individuated and be truly yourself and still belong and still vulnerably desire human contact, you know?

所，你可独立的个体， 做真实的自己， 同时依然归属于某个群体， 依然敢于脆弱地渴望人际接触，明白吗？

So, you know, again, that's why we have to individuate as individuals by definition, but also in relationship.

所，你知道，我们之所必须作个体进行个性化发展， 这是定义上的要求，但也是在人际关系中。