Investors are now betting that these two firms, together with Stripe and Adyen (which is Dutch), form a quartet that can take on America's stodgy financial establishment.
But Scipio was not one to listen to stodgy old men or superstitious priests. Scipio invaded Africa and, as predicted, Hannibal abandoned Italy to defend the Carthaginian homeland.
And his reasons, he makes a compelling argument because what he basically says is that because law is this traditional stodgy profession, that it's ripe for disruption, that it's just missed a bunch of technological advancements.
So if you don't get enough air in there, they don't get fluffy enough then the cake is going to be short, and dense and still delicious but you know a little stodgy.
Such a party saw no inspiration in Baireuth, where landscape, history, and audience were — relatively — stodgy, and where the only emotion was a musical dilettantism that the master had abhorred.
Then let's go four and a half thousand kilometres north, where we find a windswept Jonathan Wilson live from Bordeaux, watching a stodgy Spurs somehow get away with a point.
And there is another little line in their statement, very stodgy institutional investor statement, that kind of gets at the much bigger thing at play in this Tesla-Musk saga.