True thusness is without defiling thought; it cannot be known through conception and thought.

真的“如”偏颇的想；法以想、观念来颖悟的。

True thusness is the substance of thought and thought is t he function of true thusness. To think of thusness, to define it in thought is to defile it.

真“如”想的物质，而想真“如”的机构，及“如”，要固定义它犹如亵渎它。