Nick tells me that this is in part because of unbundling.

尼克告诉我，这在定程度上是因为分拆。

So that's the first unbundling phase of software computing.

因此，这是软件计算的第“绑”阶段。

But in order to have this unbundling and this interoperability, you need to have some consensus.

但要想实现这种耦和互操作性，你必须达成某种共识。

One thing I would suggest is unbundling what your current definition is of a significant other or romantic partner — that people pile things together that can be disaggregated.

我建议的件事是拆你当前对“伴侣”或“恋”的定义——们往往把许多绑在起，而这些其实是可以分开的。

He was already getting used to the fact that, as he put it, Jobs could " play fast and loose, " and he suspected that the unbundling would actually help Microsoft.

用他自己的话来说，乔布斯“反复无常”，自己已经习惯了这点，而盖茨当时也在猜想，或许这种分拆实际上对微软有好处。

Well, and I think that goes back to the bundling and unbundling thing for me in a really interesting way, because the last phase of software has definitely been unbundling, right?

嗯， 我认为这对我来说以种非常有趣的方式回到了绑和绑的事情上，因为软件的最后阶段肯定是绑，对吧？