So I think the vitalist idea is really that it's kind of a dualistic interpretation.

因此，我认为活论观点实际上是一种二元论解释。

That like whatever that magic that the vitalists see.

那就是生命论者所见那种神秘量。

So I don't think the vitalists were actually wrong.

因此，我认为活论者实际上没有错。

Life could be a material property and still have a lot of the features that the vitalists thought were mysterious.

生命可能是一种物质属性，然具备许多活论者认为神秘。

I think that no tradition, vitalists included, is ever fully wrong about the nature of the things that they're describing.

我认为，没有任何传统——包括活论者在内——在描述事物本质时是完全错误。

So do you think the vitalists have a point that they're more eager and able to notice the magic of life?

那么，你是否认为活论者有其道理，即他们更热切能够察觉到生命神奇之处？

So he gives us this point-by-point analysis of a variety of monistic theories, including Buddhism and then vitalists like Bergson, even our friend Driesch.

所以他给我们进行了各种一元论理论逐点分析，包括佛教， 还有像柏格森这样活主义者，甚至是我们好朋友德里施。

You open the book, Life As No One Knows It, The Physics of Life's Emergence, with a distinction between the materialists and the vitalists.

你翻开《生命如斯，无人知晓：生命起源物理学》这本书，首先映入眼帘是唯物主义者与生机论者之间区别。

So we may still expand our understanding what is incorporated in the category of matter that will eventually incorporate such magical things that the vitalists have noticed, like life.

因此，我们或许能扩展对物质范畴内所包含内容理解，最终将那些活论者所察觉到神奇现象，如生命，纳入其中。