Brazil's former Health Minister Nelson Teich has become the second witness to testify to a Senate inquiry, examining President Bolsonaro's handling of the coronavirus crisis.
So I'm sure there's plenty of it, because we're putting young men and young women together in very stressful circumstances, and they're going to misbehave.
He said in questioning that he did not view the call as illegal or improper, but added of the requests for investigations that it's not what we recommend that the president discuss.
And for some reason, and I think this is less mysterious perhaps, I get a lot of stuff of people misbehaving on aeroplanes, when things kick off on aeroplanes.
And so the words I actually wrote down and repeated to him the next time he was inappropriate, because of course, the situation, no matter how much you wish, it isn't going to happen.
He committed errors, errors of judgment, errors of behavior, but at the same time, he was a man who knew he was extremely intelligent, always walking, I think, more than one step ahead of others.