I feel like if you demystified the traditional way of processing meat, they would all come flocking to this as well.

乔恩·孔：我觉得， 如果你能揭开传统肉类加方式的神秘面纱，人们也会转向这种方式。

Not just with the varying sizes, some weren't proper holes, there hadn't been properly machined in the first place, and then he put a different basket on and saw, even though it was the same manufacturer, it was different again.

不只是大小不一，有的不是合适的孔，一开始没有好好加，他换了一个萃取机，看了看，虽是同一个厂家，但又不一样了。