Here's Professor Rick Karban, a biologist at the University of California, explaining more to James Wong, botanist and presenter of BBC Radio 4 programme, Is Eating Plants Wrong?

加州大学生物学家里克·卡尔班教授向植物学家兼BBC广播4频道《吃植物有错吗？》主持人詹姆斯·黄解释了更多内容。

Is my governor at fault? Is my president doing what he should? And people are really floundering right now.

我州长有错吗？我在应该情吗？人们现在真在苦苦挣扎。

You have extracted a black city out of a county and said the only ones that are at fault at an issue is the city of Detroit, where 80% of the people who reside here are African American.

你从整个县中单独挑出一个黑人城市， 并声称在某个问题上唯一有错是底特律市，而该市80%居民是非洲裔美国人。

What is that called when you forgive somebody, but in spite of trying to let it go, just occasionally it comes back up, is that just called being a faulted human being?

- 当你原谅一个人时，尽管试图放下它， 只是偶尔会重新出现，这叫一个有错人吗？

I mean, is it so wrong that I want a grand gesture?

我想要个明确示爱有错吗？