Charlie Rose: Meaning autonomy? Jean Liu: Autonomy is, you know, a very popular topic. I do think, you know, let's look at the purpose of autonomy. Why autonomy, right, why not with a very good human driver? I think the key purpose here is really about safety and I believe in it because there are 1.3 million people die every year from road accidents.
Charlie Rose: Right.
Jean Liu: That's more than drugs and wars.
Charlie Rose: Right.
Jean Liu: And it's not supposed to be like that. I think 30 years down the road when we look back we will probably feel that is ridiculous.
Charlie Rose: What were we thinking about?
Jean Liu: Yeah, what were we thinking about, and you know, when we talk about autonomous driving, it could make driving much safer. But that's a lot of people believe in, but I do believe it's a progress. We need to, you know, make sure it is a gradual progress and it's well tested. It could be geo fencing some area to test it and then let's bring into, you know, bigger market. But let's make sure safety, you know, is the top priority. Rather than bring some technology in.
Charlie Rose: Right, but that is an issue that can probably be handled, I assume, and that we are going to simply see moreautonomy, more driverless cars on the part of manufacturers, and as well as people who use cars like you.
Jean Liu: Right, I think that -- will be the trend, that could be the trend, yes.
Charlie Rose: Is it going to be slower than we imagined, do you think, because of conquering safety issues and other factors? 21:50Jean Liu: Yeah, I think -- you know, I think people should bemore, you know, focusing on how safe it is than how soon it can come out. Because even, you know, it comes out, I think in certain areas it can be well used, for example, logistic, right, when it's a geo fencing area. You know we can --
